I'm looking fwd to reading more of this story. I have to say I agree w/ you it is a betrayal to Justin, and he should rightfully be pi####D! I'm glad you'll forgoe the blood. 

Author's Response:

Aww see and I was waiting for someone to agree with me so I could have him stab them. LOL. Thanks for the review, I'm glad you're enjoying the story.

Later, Jessica

Sam, I have absolutely no issues with other peoples opinion I realized we all don't think alike however U write your little comments here  very quickly and they don't always come out exactly like U like so often people are misunderstood.  And my comment was for someone that didn't agree with my opinion and I was simply saying how differntly I saw it.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, Brianwriter I have seen you leave multiple reviews disputing peoples oppinions and this isnt your story, everyone has different beliefs and ways of life and thats ok. As for Brians behaviour, he was always honest and while extreme you would be surprised how many women and men out there live similar to him. The issue people are having with this story is unless you were a saint this wouldnt be forgotton, forgiven maybe, you could possibly remain friends (I doubt close friends though) with both of them but be in any sort of relationship with either again - nah wouldnt happen. I have enjoyed reading all these reviews its obvious to me that quite afew people have gone through this situation or known of someone who has and I applaud you all for reviewing, I am sure it was not easy to write about, I personally like to stick my head in the sand and pretend things didnt happen and try not to think about them but alas that doesnt work forever

Author's Response:

Hey Sam,

I would say that I'm sorry that I seem to have caused some comotion but really I'm glad people are sharing their opions on this. This story started from a that's bullshit place and the challange was to make it as real as I could within the confines of the story. I agree with everyone that this isn't going to be an easy thing to deal with and it's the most horrific betrayal but I have to say we cannot in any good concions chose how others should react to something. Everyone is different and the way they deal with their lives is up to them so anything is possible. I hope I pull off making this story as realistic as possible.

Later, Jessica

I disagree that this should be taken lightly and as fun, this is clearly meant to be an angsty serious story and if done well it will be a very powerful story indeed but as far as the great forgive/to not forgive goes no matter how great a writer is you cant make an impossible situation possible if you want it to be taken as a serious story and anyone who says or thinks they would forgive them is fooling themselves and clearly hasnt been in this situation or atleast had a person close to them go through it.

You might forgive but you NEVER forget and thats where the problem is, it eats away at you until you resent the people so much looking at them is too hard.

If you just write for fun and entertainment then no matter what you do thats fine but if you write to be a serious writer and want your stories taken seriously then you need to consider whats realistic, whats possible etc. While I do also think everyone is different on what they will forgive you need to remember the lasting effects something like this has, the person betrayed will always remember it but needs to find a way to move on and who in their right mind could see Brian and Daphne and their child even in 10 years time and not flinch and feel pain at what they had done, so if Justin forgives them hes going to be flinching and living in pain mentally for the rest of his life, considering what he has endured already I doubt he would put himself through that. The sad thing is alot of people try to and it shatters them inside and makes them half a person and by the time they get out of the 'toxic situations' they are so damaged and untrusting that it ruins their new relationships too, its a never ending scar

Author's Response:

Hey Trish,

Okay to say that this is an impossible situation is to say that everyone is exactly the same and thus their reactions the same. Now I know in this fandom we know that isn't true. We love two men whose relationship if we were in, well we'd be out of it real soon because we couldn't deal with that. But it wasn't our relationship because these people aren't us. Now I'm not saying that this isn't a complete and utter betrayal and that it's not going to be the worst thing that has happened to their relationship but impossible, no. I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts on this matter though, I love to hear what my readers think, and it deff tends to sway things for me.

Later, Jessica

Ethan made one mistake when he cheated on Justin and Justin never forgave him, obviously he didnt love him as much as Brian but my point is that Justin is a strong self-respecting man who is going to be so hurt and disgusted by these 2 trailor park trashies hes not going to forgive them.

If Daphne was any kind of friend she wouldnt even tell them about the baby she would just leave the area and not speak to them again, and give them the chance to heal even though imho thats never gonna happen. Her and the baby always in Justins face and around Brian is going to kill any hope of a reunion

I cant remeber the name of a fic but there was one like this where Daphne and Brian became best friends afterwards and he was all kind and caring towards her, putting her and the baby first and treated her better than he ever treated Justin and I hope thats not the way this is heading because Brian can be an abrasive ass to anyone sometimes and it would not be Brian to be all sweet and caring towards her, its just to faux, he is not going to want a baby and especially to her because hes going to know deep down that Justin will never want him again, he can kiss the sunshine goodbye

interesting plot my thoughts however are that to have Justin forgive either of them would be so fake, unfortunately I have seen this very thing happen to several people throughout my life and it never ends well. If the boyfriend is not a serious one sometimes the friend can be forgiven but the friendship is never strong or the same, in this situation though Brian is Justins 'true love' sorry for the cornyness and Daphne knows this so there is no forgiving a friend let alove best friend who does that, there is NOTHING worse Daphne could have done to Justin, killing him would have been better than doing that so to have him forgive her would be so fake. I wouldnt reccomend forgiving Brian either, the trust will never be there and the betrayal will always be there when Justin looks at him. To forgive a cheating partner and get past it is incredibly hard and again if its someone the partner doesnt know or someone that isnt that important to the partner its one thing but when you have a family member, friend, work collegue etc it takes on a whole new form of betrayal and it never ends well. It would be nice to live in delusion and have everything fixed and go well but thats not realistic sometimes no matter how much you want to forgive or fix a relationship it just isnt possible. I want to add that with adding a baby you have sealed the fate of them never working it out because again you have the constant reminder of the betrayal and often when this happens the 'victim' will try to forgive one of the parties but cant forgive both because to see them together or hear one talk about the other the reminder of what they did is there so unless you have daphne move away and brian never contact the child and talk about them theres no way to get a justin/brian relationship back

and thankyou for not having the het scene and just implying what happened, the situation is already terrible enough without getting scarred from het sex between those two, yuck lol

*sniff* You know hon you are really evil to our poor Jussin... first the thing with hobbs now this one

But I'm glad you're posting this story finally can't wait for the rest of it btw Awesome banner ;) I'm glad you got one I'm really sorry that I didn't make you one .... forgive me? 

Kiss Tina 

Author's Response:

Thanks for reading and reviewing, Tina. I'm glad you like the story, even if I am poking a stick quite hard at Justin once again. I'm glad you like the baner, I know you would have done it if you had the time and I'm not angry at you.

Later, Jessica

If you were going to use this plot you should have given Justin a male best friend. Its just not believable a gay man that isnt a young confused teen would sleep with their partner or even ex partners female friend.

Being high or drunk is a poor excuse people use when they dont have the balls to admit to their actions. Even when you are high as a kite, drunk off your ass or both you are still aware of your actions and it certainly does not make a gay man who isnt into women at all sleep with a women. Yes we all know Brian slept with Lindsay in college but he was a young man and he had a relationship with her, he loved her even though he wasnt in love with her and was young, he would not sleep with a women at his age especially one he has no relationship with like Daphne.

If you were going to have him sleep with a women the only believeable option would have been to have Lindsay as the female.

Daphne sleeping with Brian isnt believable either, she was always there for Justin and I felt in alot of ways she was in love with him, similar to how Lindsay felt about Brian and she just wouldnt cross that line. It might be just a story but to write a good, serious, angst story it has to be realistic, so the best friend should have been male or if you wanted to go the female angle you should have used Lindsay.

Brian and Justin like everyone had their ups and downs but Brian was always looking out for Justin and loved him on such a deep level and while he tricked and hurt Justin in ways it was never anything severe, he was always trying to make Justins life better or easier whether they were apart or not so to then have him go and do something so vicious and out of character makes it hard to believe.

Then their is the whole fact that Brian never slept with Michael his own best friend who he loved but like Lindsay wasnt in love with. One of his strong beliefs was you dont fuck your friends, Daphne being Justins best friend makes her his friend too and this is another reason that makes it not as believable. I hope you take this constructively because your writing and main idea was fantastic, but it really needed abit more thought to take it to that next level of being believable and therefore making it a really powerful piece of writing

first fic ive read where I hate Daphne, who needs enemies with a friend like that. Im not even going to comment on Brian hes not worth it. Literally stabbing Justin in his heart would have hurt less than what they did. Im with the others who say new man for Justin and let the other two have lonely miserable lives, they dont deserve happiness after treating someone they claim to love so poorly.

I have seen this scenario afew times in real life to people I know. Both times a female friend of mines boyfriend slept with her best female friend and here were the outcomes. One couldnt be around either she couldnt even look at them so she ended up leaving the area as she couldnt take the constant reminders and betrayal, even in her relationships after that she has very bad trust issues now and the relationships always suffer due to her just not being able to trust the men or her female friends, its very sad and my other friend tried to save her relationship with her friend and boyfriend but she was constantly anxious and fearing they were seeing each other behind her back (even though to my knowledge it never happened again) the problem is when this sort of betrayal takes place even with counselling often the emotional damage is too severe, even on the surface they may seem to be fine but inside they are being torn apart by the fear, anger, sadness etc. Sorry for the ramble, just wanted to share a real perspective, too many stories dont take reality into consideration and have the characters doing things and forgiving things that realistically sometimes there is no going back, I think Brian has finally pushed Justin off a cliff so high justin wont be able to climb back up, after all Justin has been through emotionally this is the lowest thing Brian could have done to Justin and in many ways it would be degrading for Justin to take him back

You captured Justins heartbreak so well, like I seriously felt sick and my heart was thudding in my chest it was so awful. I want to point out one thing that annoyed me though was when Brian defended Daphne by telling Justin not to be angry with her or whatever, I have read 2 similar stories in the past that always have Brian and Daphne siding together and Justin on the outter and it makes it unreadable so I will wait to see what happens next but if its going to be another story with them siding together and defending each other I probably wont continue to read, also the banner has a baby so obviously Daphne gets pregnant and although IMO if I was Justin I wouldnt forgive them for what theyve done already I have to add that if they did it raw when Brian would never do it raw with Justin that really would be no way in hell Justin would ever forgive him no matter how much ass kissing they did lol

Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I'm glad that Justin's heartbreak came across well. As for the other stories you are referring to, well this one was kind of written in responce to those as that fact irratated me as well. Also don't worry there was a condom. And ass kissing will be involved...a lot of it.

Later, Jessica

I really hope that this wont be another story where Justin is made out to be the one in the wrong. Daphne and Brians behaviour is unforgiveable and there is no fixing that. But if you are going to have Justin forgive them please dont have him trying to fix things or Daphne and Brian becoming best friends and leaving him out they need to BEG him for forgiveness and even then considering Brian is gay he wouldnt just sleep with Daphne because he was horny so the only reason would be to hurt Justin, gay men that are fully gay like Brian (young teens maybe but not a grown gay man adult) dont just sleep with women because they are drunk, high whatever so Im not sure how this would work

Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I promise this will not be that kind of story. Actually it's kind of written in responce to those kind of stories. Brian and Daph have a lot to make up for and it won't be easy.

Later, Jessica

I've never read a story with this kind of twist before. I really think its a marvellous idea you had !

Still, it is heartbreaking to see  Justin caught the 2 most important persons in his life together in bed!!!

F**k ! Even I stopped breathing for a few seconds, when the duvet was pull out of the way...

Then, this sentence of yours (don't know why though):<"I don’t want to SEE either of you EVER again"> made me think of the scene when Justin screams to his father "that he's never coming home again... NEVER AGAIN!" with a broken voice, so full of pain... And I felt my heart ache so much for Justin and his faith all over again !

I wonder how things will go now ? It is the worse kind of betrayal you can experience, even if its a stupid mistake... 

For once, I wish Justin won't forgive Daphne and Brian too easily and rapidly!

Let them sweat and beg to regain Justin's trust!!! Let Justin be noble and strong despite his suffering !

Update soon! As you see, I am  *consume* by your story ! Lol!  

See ya, Jersey :))

Author's Response:

Thanks for reading and reviewing. I know this is a shocking twist. I promise Justin won't forgive right away as this is something you can't just forgive that easily.

Later, Jessica

oohhh poor Justin, once again he is betrayed and by his lover and best friend  what a blow. Please update as soon as you can i like to see where this is going.

 

Hugs Buffytess 

Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I know I tend to poke a stick at Justin, but our boy can handle it. It was deff a horrible thing, we'll ave to see how he deals with it.

Later, Jessica