Midnight Whispers
QAF Brian and Justin Fanfiction
Reviews For Betrayal
Reviewer: Armandyouidiot (Anonymous) · Date: March 08, 2009 11:18 PM · On: Dealing

Damn you are good!  This seems so real.  It tears me up inside how unhappy they all are.

Author's Response:

Thanks for the review and for the compliment. Expressing this much emotional pain for all of them is difficult and I'm glad I'm pulling it off.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Tiffany (Anonymous) · Date: March 08, 2009 10:59 PM · On: Dealing

Just got caught up with this story and its ssssooooo GOOOOOOOOD!  Update soon.

Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I'm glad you are liking the story.

Later, Jessica



Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I'm glad you are liking the story.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Buffytess (Anonymous) · Date: March 08, 2009 10:28 PM · On: Dealing

oohh i hope that Justin will let them suffer for what they have done,and i hope they have do some serious begging and sweet talking before he even thinks of taking Brian back if he ever, it will serves him right if he dosen`t.

I really hope for an update soon.

 

Hugs Buffytess

Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, oh Daphne and Brian will suffer, they already are. Justin just has to remember to put one foot in front of the other.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Gloria (Anonymous) · Date: March 08, 2009 09:06 PM · On: Dealing

I have not read yet. Is this going to be a b/j ending, like will j end up forgiving b and them get back together ? maybe I am just different to the others but I dont want to read it if they get back together. I dont mind reading angsty stories but I dont like the ones that make j weak and just puts up with anything. like when story is all angst and b does all this crazy stuff and j just forgives him. I am happy to read this but not if they are going to end up together. I would hate to read j going back to either b or d after what they did.

Author's Response: This is NOT the fic for you

Reviewer: gerri (Signed) · Date: March 08, 2009 09:04 PM · On: Dealing

That was so cleaver and so sad as well. These two need each other to get throught his they can't do it alone.

Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, Sissie. I'm so glad you're enjoying the story. Brian and Justin deff need each other the question is will they be able to deal.

Huggles, Jessica

Reviewer: Tanaya (Anonymous) · Date: March 08, 2009 08:51 PM · On: Dealing

its nice of brian to be worrying about what he wants to do about the baby and daphne to be worrying about what she wants to do with the baby but neither of them have stopped to think about whats best for justin. They are both wanting to keep the baby because thats what they want but it would be better for justin for there to be no baby. if daphne was any sort of friend she would have gone to the doctors on her own and if she was pregnant she would have kept it to herself and never told brian and given justin the chance to maybe mend brian and his relationship but by her selfish behaviour of thinking only of herself she is making the situation go from terrible to even worse. im sorry but no matter where you go with this there is no forgiving daphne or brians behaviour and no im not even talking about just there first big mistake. they should be willing to do whatever it takes to get justin to forgive them even if that meant aborting the baby (we all know justin would never ask them to do that) but why would he forgive them. they have done nothing but put themselves and each other before him repeatedly through this whole story. I hope he moves on and finds a new partner that will not only respect him but put his needs before there own. seriously if daphne is your best friend you certainly dont need enemies. brian and daphne are behaving like a old married couple fighting lol they are really becoming a little family

Author's Response: Are you saying that you think a child's life is that insignificant that it should be used as a bargining chip? *shakes head* that is so sad

Reviewer: Deb Tanner (Signed) · Date: March 04, 2009 02:57 AM · On: Consequences

I'm enjoying your story and hope you continue. It will be interesting to see where you take it.

 

I don't usually read the reviews to stories, but when I saw the author's note you posted I became curious and read a few. I think some of the reviewers should watch episode 1.01 again. Brian's first sexual experience was at age 14. I would think by the time he was 18 and in college where he met Lindsay he would have known he was definitely gay. And I highly doubt that since he is a gay man and as some of the reviewers have stated, would only fuck a woman in the ass, there would have been the following conversation:

 

Brian to Lindsay in the hospital: "I would have fucked you, you know." (Then there's the bit about Mel would have kicked his ass.)

 

Lindsay to Brian: "Well, you had plenty of chances."

 

Brian to Lindsay: "I took advantage of a few, I recall."

 

Lindsay to Brian: "Wasn't half bad."

Somehow I doubt Lindsay would have been offering up her ass to Brian. And if, on the off chance, he was fucking her in the ass in college, I don't think he would have made the comment that he would have fucked her to get her pregnant.



Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I'm so glad you like the story. Like you I don't reader reviews to stories and with this one sometimes I don't want to read my own reviews. lol. I believe that these people that are reviewing like that are not dealing the reality. They seem to be responding to the one demensional person that they assume Brian would be instead of trying to give him a real life as fanfic often does. Thanks for your support.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: rose (Anonymous) · Date: March 02, 2009 11:16 PM · On: Consequences

my heart is breaking.... Poor guys...:-)) rose

Author's Response:

Thanks for reading and reviewing, I'm glad you are continuing to enjoy the story.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Buffytess (Anonymous) · Date: March 02, 2009 01:41 PM · On: Consequences

Thank you smuch for the great update i i just love this fic. I hope for an update soon beacuse i just love this fic.

 

Many Hugs Buffytess

Author's Response:

Thanks for reading and reviewing. I have finished the next chapter and it has already been beta'ed so it will be posted on Sunday.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: sjmpets3 (Signed) · Date: March 02, 2009 09:36 AM · On: Consequences

justin is hurting but starting over. not letting jennifer know where he is isn't good but it's understandable.

brian and daphne, i feel for them but an unwanted child? not fair to the child. what they're going through and feeling is deserved. wait until everyone, and they will, finds out. out in the cold will be welcomed.



Author's Response:

Thank you so much for the review, I'm so glad you're enjoying the story. Justin is deff in a lot of pain and though he might not be making the best choices he is doing what he feels he needs to. I hope you continue to read and like this story.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: gerri (Signed) · Date: February 28, 2009 10:17 PM · On: Fall Out

I don't usually read this story here, but for this chapter I did.
I love the way you have made Justin strong and even though Brian and Daphne did not go out of their way to hurt Justin, they did and should feel bad about it.

People gay, straight or otherwise make mistakes all the time. Sometimes we get caught, sometimes we get away with it.
In this instance they got caught and Justin is allowed to be pissed.
At the end of the day you are an angst princess and people like me that enjoy that aspect of your writing have come to expect that, keep up the good work, even if it kills us to read it at times...I know that you love that it does that to us.
Your fics balance out all the smoochy, smutty, romantic stuff that I also like, I am a diverse person, I like my fic like life, lots of variety and spice hugs!

Author's Response:

Thank you for the support Sissie, I'm so glad you like this story.

Huggles, Jessica

Reviewer: Heygirl1 (Anonymous) · Date: February 03, 2009 07:12 AM · On: Fall Out

So happy to have a new chapter.  It was great.  I feel so bad for Justin.

Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I feel terrible for Justin as well he feels all alone in the world.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Gina Marie (Signed) · Date: February 03, 2009 02:07 AM · On: Fall Out

I'm glad to see you update this story.  Boy this is a mess! One question though, did I miss something? Brian isn't Gus's real father in this story?

Author's Response: Thanks for the review. I'm confused by the question though.

Reviewer: sjmpets3 (Signed) · Date: February 02, 2009 04:17 PM · On: Fall Out

brian's crushed. daphne is devastated and justin is going to move on without letting them know.

OMFG! i do agree with what he wants to do but have a feeling it's going to backfire on him.



Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, there is deff enough pain to go around in this story. I can understand Justin's actions as well we will just have to see what happens.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: LoveZara (Anonymous) · Date: February 02, 2009 04:03 PM · On: Fall Out

Oh god I had been waiting forever for the update, well worth it! I just love angsty fics. So Justin's leaving? He doesn't have anywhere to go. Poor boy. 

Can't wait for more!



Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I love angst too...can you tell? lol.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: bec (Anonymous) · Date: February 02, 2009 03:09 PM · On: Fall Out

I understand where you are going with this fic, it's just started and you are going to show it more from Justin's point of view then the other fics did.  So that is why I am sticking with it, hoping that in the future chapters this will be seen, so far it's not, but I'm willing to wait and see.

And like I said I get where you are going with it, but my response is more towards your replies than the readers...

Okay, if your theory is that Brian drunk will sleep with anyone, then why hasn't he ever slept with Michael?  He's even started to but he usually sobers up very fast and puts a stop to it.  I mean, come on even when Michael says no, the Brian I know could talk him into it.  But he hasn't, he's stopped.  Why, because Brian has the fastest sobering up that I've ever seen in a character.  Plus even drunk off his ass Brian has always been aware of who and what he is doing.  

And as Steve has responded, he wouldn't fuck her pussy, he'd go right for the back entrance, not the front.  

Also, as a writer you should know that the minute you put your work up on the internet it belongs to the world, you should be prepared to hear every opinion, even if you don't like it. Authors notes or no notes, be prepared to hear the good, the bad and the ugly. 

And I'm not looking for a response to this message because I really feel your playing with the reviewers and enjoy playing with them, so don't bother responding to this one.   

Not hiding my identity...

bec 



Author's Response: *raises eyebrow* if you didn't want an answer maybe you should have kept your thoughts to yourself.

Reviewer: Buffytess (Anonymous) · Date: February 02, 2009 02:58 PM · On: Fall Out

thank you soo much for the update!!!! I have waited for it. Poor Justin you can just feel how hurt he is and i think he will be more heartbroken when he finds out that Daphne is pregnant.

Please update as soon as you can,I am looking forward to the next chapter.

 

Many Hugs Buffytess



Author's Response:

Thanks you so much for the review, I'm sorry it took so long to get back to it but if you have seen some of the other ones I have been avoiding the reviews here.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Buffytess (Anonymous) · Date: January 27, 2009 05:12 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

please update soon i so love this fic and i want to read moore.

 

Many Hugs Buffytess



Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I'm so glad you like ths story.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: ann (Anonymous) · Date: January 26, 2009 10:05 AM · On: It's Over

this story is amazing.....please finish!

Author's Response:

Don't worry I will finish I was sort of hiding from well you know but I am writing again. I am so glad you stuck with me.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: BRIJUSLuvrr (Signed) · Date: November 13, 2008 06:43 AM · On: It's Over

Hey Jess,

update sssssssssoon love it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Author's Response: Thanks for the review, I'm so glad that you like it. And I will update after the 19th when I stop having to work as much.

Reviewer: Gina Marie (Signed) · Date: October 27, 2008 11:31 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

Hey Jessica,

I think I understand where some of these people are comming from.

In thier world, (view) Gay men only sleep with other men, Gay women only sleep with other women, Straigh people only sleep with the opposite sex.  And when you fuck your lovers best friend, it's an unforgivable act. Period.

  Oh and if you have one sexual experince with a person of the same sex, that makes you gay. 

Some people live in absolutes.  They like to believe all things are black and white. Problem with their theories though is that life doesn't work that way.

The truth is, sometimes straight people fuck people of the same sex and that does not mean they are gay.

Sometimes Gay people fuck people of the opposite sex and it does not mean they are straight.

Relationships, and sex especially, is so fucking complicated you can NEVER say what someone would, or wouldn't do.  I've wittness ALL kinds of relationships. I've seen women take men back for shit I would have shot them for.  One in particular, was a friend of mine whose husband slept with her sister.  Guess what? She eventually forgave him and they have been together now 5 years, no more incidents.

You can't argue with people who believe so narrowly. Truth is, ANYTHING is possible, and the most inprobably happens all the time in relationships.

You have a great story here!  I'm loving it.  and it's totally believable. I mean if these critics bought half the shit they wrote for QAF, why can't they buy your more believable story? 

To them, a character who drinks and takes as many drugs as Brian does, stays up fucking all night, and is still able to be successful at his joband look great, is realistic? Um, I don't think so.  Clubbing 6 nights a week? Fucking all night? Using alcohol and drugs like they're vitamins? And while doing this he holds a high power job?  Must be super man.

Wait, maybe he IS rage! LOL



Author's Response:

Yes, God forbid we should acknowledge that there is a grey area in everything in life. That no matter how much you would like it to, not everything fits neatly into the little packages we have made for them.

I figure they will get bored as I go through the story because really who is going to keep reading something they hate just so they can bitch about it. Although I figure that for even those people, I am doing my job because they are obviously bored and this is entertaining them.

I have tried to educate them but making people realize their worldview is screwed is not the easiest thing in the world obviously. Therefore, I will just keep posting and keep laughing at the regurgitated comments.

On the other hand, I hope you and all the people who like this story will continue to enjoy it.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Stacey (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 08:11 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

I dont have a problem with your story, its made up, not real so you can write whatever you want. I do find your replies and 1 or 2 other reviewers offensive in the fact that you keep saying gay men will sleep with women if their desperate, its a pity that in this day and age people still have that attitude. I agree with another reviewer regarding the double standards, its so wrong that people assume if you gay you will sleep with anyone of any gender but if your straight thats it your just straight. Its so hard for people to come out and yet you want to push them back in by saying they will sleep with women or only if they are on an island, a certain situation or just desperate, thats very insulting. Gay means gay, sure there are minority cases or people that are bi but its very sad that people cant just accept someone being gay they have to try and make them or turn them straight when a straight person is just taken for their word that they are straight

Author's Response: I guess the answer to that is simply that it happens. Can I explain why it's possible no but it is and it does.

Reviewer: Steve (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 07:57 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

You keep saying a gay man would fuck a women, Im a gay man and I dont know of an adult gay man that would and Ive known alot of gay men in my time but what I would really like to point out is that if Brian fucked a women it would be up the ass not the pussy so there would be no way for her to get pregant. Ive noticed you keep replying to people and slamming them for saying a gay man wouldnt sleep with a women but a man that is completely gay why would he fuck a women in the pussy and not her ass think about that and you keep saying your living in the real world and all the other people arent I find that amusing when so many people disagree with you what are most people living on a strange planet, I dont think so I think no one would have a problem with this story if you didnt keep saying gay men would fuck a women, well most wouldnt and if they did *ass* not pussy!!!!! that is a fact, honest go  to gay chat sites or clubs and I bet any that said they would sleep with a women would nly do it like you said on a deserted island and then it would still be up the ass, gay men like ass not pussy its really quite simple.

Author's Response:

Yeah the reason I'm saying that is that only the people here are having his problem, everywhere else they are accepting that possiblity. What does that say to you??? As for not being a gay man, I might not be one but I asked a few. In addition I put in a author's note that said I was trying to make a story line that already exsited where Brian and Daphne slept together more real, I made the author's note it's own chapter and still you people ignore it. I said in aforementioned author's note that the possiblity of this happening is so so slim but still you guys regurgitate the same things. I don't know what else you guys would like me to say, common sense is not working.

Reviewer: Belle (Signed) · Date: October 27, 2008 07:34 PM · On: It's Over

I find it interesting that some of your detractors leave their comments anonymously. If they are that 'fired up' then they should have no problem with signing their comments. This fic is not my cup of tea but I am adult enough to respect your right to write what you choose and heed warnings. AU is AU for a reason. If you don't find something your like move on, but don't dog a writer who is brave enough to post her talent.

Belle



Author's Response:

True but they are always like that when they act this way. I haven't ever had this problem before but I've seen other authors while they were going through it. It's irritating and makes me not want to post here but I do have faithful readers and I wouldn't do that to them because of these other people. And truthfully I'm not too sure that I would read this fic or not, I would deff have to wait until it was finished to try it, lol. Thanks for having given it a chance though, Belle.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Anonymous (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 04:04 PM · On: It's Over

"Real as possible"

Well, then if we are taking it from that point of view that they had sex to comfort each other, well then Brian should have f*cked Michael years ago. 

Brian Kinney has gotten so high, so drunk that he has to have Mikey take him home and put him to bed, but in all that time he has ALWAYS remembered to use a condom.  And using the excuse that he's drunk is so lame, I mean come on the minute he reached for the dick but instead encountered wet and a hole he would have sobered up immediately.

Wasn't buying it with the first chapter still not buying it.  Plus from some of your review answers I'm questioning are you writing this for "feedback" or exactly what you are getting, firing people up??

 



Author's Response: That's an interesting point of view when I'm trying to be a nice as possible to the people who are commenting on here when all I really want to do is ignore the ones who are saying things I find ridiculous. Like why are you still reading it if you didn't like the first chapter??? I know if I don't like something I stop reading it, so where's the logic here?

Reviewer: Buffytess (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 02:37 PM · On: It's Over

thank you soo much for the update i have been waiting for it and it was a great one and i hope Brian and Daphne gets what they deserve. i Just feel so sorry for Justin but i hope he will be all right in the end.

Please update soon i love this fic.

 

Hugs Buffytess 

 

Reviewer: maryann (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 01:28 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

to the author- just because my point of view is different to your doesnt make it corrupt. Look at all the other reviews they seem to be having a similar point of view to me so maybe you need to think more about what your writing because this definately is coming across as a daphne/brian not a brian/justin fic.

gina - and to to say i have been under a rock because i dont think a gay man would sleep with a women. I didnt mean any gay man just most. It annoys me that if someone is gay either a gay man or gay woman people just assume that a gay man sleeps with women or a gay woman sleeps with men under the right situation. It annoys me because if someone is straight people dont say they would sleep with someone of the same sex it annoys me that there are double standards. if your straight people just accept that but if your gay then people think you can sleep with someone of the opposite sex, Gay and Bi are totally different, and someone younger whether gay or straight may expreiment but a grown adult is different again so no I havent been under a rock and considering your not a gay man you cant speak for them, im not trying to speak for them Im just sick of people saying a gay man sleeps with women but yet if someone is straight people just accept that. If someone is saying they are gay accept it dont presume because they are gay they will sleep with either gender



Author's Response: Not it really corrupt, you and the other people who agree with you are saying that that Brian can't do something that you don't see him doing, that he can't be real. Do you really think that, hmmm something fantastical, okay if he were stuck on a deserted island with only a woman, he wouldn't fuck her??? Really, really???

Reviewer: Bess (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 12:47 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

So Daphne has a boyfriend but shes obviously not on birth control to get pregnant. Someone like Daphne who doesnt want children and marriage would most likely be on birth control if she was in a relationship so she sleeps with Brian and ends up pregnant to him and not the boyfriend even though shes only been with Brian once. Sleeping with more than 1 person in such a close period of time they arent going to know who the father is until shes had the baby and done dna, It is possible even though the chances are way way way slim but really its getting harder to believe each chapter. Dont take this wrong but I dont understand why you couldnt keep it more serious why it just keeps getting more far fetched each chapter to the point where all you can do is think as if that would happen all through it, one think far fetched is ok but when each thing has such a slim chance of happening when you start adding them together it becomes silly

Author's Response: Okay so let me get this straight, you think it's silly that if you got drunk and slept with someone you shouldn't that you would get pregnant? That the chances of that happening are slim? I'm thinking there are millions of children that are the result of exactly that happening. It's Murphy's Law, whatever can go wrong, will.

Reviewer: Carmen (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 12:40 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

You keep saying anyone is capable of things under the extreme circumstances but thats your oppinion and yes people do things they wouldnt normally do under extreme circumstances but brian missing justin and daphne having problems with her boyfriend is not enough of a reason to make them sleep together. I have read all the reviews and you seem to not really get what people are saying. Im not saying anything against your story or plot but you keep saying its as real as possible and as most of your reviewers seem to agree thats not how other people are reading it. Its your story and you need to write what you want but if most people are taking it different to how you mean it than maybe you should think about how your wording it or something. This story in no way come across real and its not just the fact of brian being gay and daphne being the best friend. im talking about the reason you used for them to sleep together is not realistic and its not an extreme circumstance. This isnt in character because daphne always looked out for justin and wouldnt do this, brian was an ass alot but he wouldnt do this either so call this an au or whatever but dont keep saying its as real as possible and its in character because while thats your oppinion and everyone is entitled to it most of your reviewers dont seem to be understanding what it is your trying to get across in the story and as a writer you need to work on that

Author's Response:

Right it's my opinion, and look at that, it's the one that matters, what'd you know. I live in reality where people do messed up stuff all the time so this is plausable when Brian thinks he has Lost Justin. Plus here is the only place people are saying this stuff and truthfully I expected it so I'll keep writing and then reading these wonderful narrow views and trying not to slam my head off something.

Reviewer: Jersey (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 12:29 PM · On: It's Over

My heart goes out to Justin right now... !!! He's in surviving mode ! 

Its obvious that he is devastated,  that his own world is upside down ! *But I hope he won't do nothing too drastic or try to harm himself...?*

So much suffering will be going around for our trio... How will they manage to get over this ? 

I think you handle this chapter the right way by letting us know how Justin feels inside. I believe you know where you are going with this story and I'll be waiting for the next installment !!!

Please, don't make me wait too long before you update as I want to know what will happen next !

See ya! Jersey :))

 

Reviewer: rose (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 12:22 PM · On: It's Over

poor justin. I loved your update. though it´s very sad... please update soon :-)) rose

Reviewer: Jody (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 12:01 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

gina marie

my comment had nothing to do with their relationship on the show so please dont put words in my mouth. But lots of people have open relationships. However Im pretty sure that no matter what relationship your in fucking your partners best friend is a no no. Can you honestly see them being happy again after this? Daphne and Brian can  move on and play happy families or not but its Justin thats left with all th scars that will never heal. I know if you love someone you will put up with alot but Justin will never get over what they did so he would never truely be happy with Brian after this so the situation between the two of them is not something that can be fixed



Author's Response:

Hi Jody,

My question I guess would be, what about all the people who do get over this? I mean this isn't a fantastical thing I pulled out of thin air, this happens, every day I'm sure and while many realtionships don't survive it some do. So are we suppose to discount those people as impossible too?

Jessica

Reviewer: Gina Marie (Signed) · Date: October 27, 2008 11:34 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

To Jody, the moral's police. 

Not all relationships are conducted the way you think they shoud be.  you want to talk about morals? how about all the fucking Brian does when he supposedly loves Justin? That you can justify, but him fucking Daph you can't?

So it's ok to fuck anyone as long as it's not your best friend? Some would say that's fucked up morals. Actually, Randy said as much. He objected to the way his character just took Brian's shit.  I mean would YOU stay with a man like Brian? He's not faithful, and excuses it away by saying 'I"m gay, that means I fuck who I want, when I want'.  Even if it means you degrade and humiliate the person you 'say' you love.

Nice morals there hon.   Good luck with that.

Reviewer: Jody (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 11:29 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

edit

and NOT rip you apart in the worst way possible

my bad my english is terrible

Reviewer: Gina Marie (Signed) · Date: October 27, 2008 11:28 AM · On: It's Over

maryann...

I watched the same show as you. Are you going to tell me the writers kept the actors in character throughout the whole series? Cause if you are, then I would counter you are either delusional, or were watching a different show then the rest of us.

As for what you 'think' Brian would do, or not do, I don't know what you base your beliefs on since cowlip had Brian and Justin do things I would NEVER believe either one of them would ever do! At least not the Justin and Brian characters from seasons 1-3.  

"realistically" Brian IS capable of fucking a woman.  Again, it depends on the circumstances.  As far as fucking Daph, to me it makes sense if he WAS going to fuck a woman, it would be Daph simply because of her connection to Justin.

Now, I speak from experience. I lost my boyfriend in a car  accident when I was 19, (many moons ago) I had sex with his best freind shortly afterwards in my grief. It felt like a connection to me.  Of course it didn't last, but I don't regret it. It happened. Period. 

In this story, the writer makes it clear that Brian thought he 'lost' Justin for good. That he was never  coming back. so YES, I can see him fucking his best friend in grief.

I'm sorr you can't. but believe me, it CAN happen. even to the fucking almight Mr. Kinney!

 



Author's Response:

Hey Gina,

I'm glad you liked the story and understand where the motivations are coming from. I hope I can keep it as real as possible under the circumstances. As for Brian sleeping with a woman I have to repeat something I believe I have already said, any and everyone is capable of any number of things that they would never normally do under certain circumstances. I'm so glad you get that. Anyway, thanks for the review.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Jody (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 11:26 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

I find disturbing is the reviewers that say brian slept with daphne to feel close to justin (that is so distasteful and off) and have the oppinion everyone makes mistakes lets forgive and all live happily ever after. Its clearly people like them that fuck their partners best friends and their best friends partners. No morals.

Everyone makes mistakes yes but if you can honestly say if you were in this situation that you would forgive is not true and even if you did forgive you would never have a healthy relationship again for many reasons, you would never trust them, and a biggie is you would never forget like whats happening already hes getting images of them together, that never goes away so if he forgives them what does he spend a life just being quietly miserab;e and being destroyed from the inside. Nope I say fuck yu to people with no morals, sorry but mistakes everyone makes but if you fuck up big enough well sucks to be you but you gotta live with it. Justin keep running to ny and never look back. Change your phone number, address maybe even your name and just keep the fuck away from them. There is a nice man out there for you who will respect you and rip you apart in the worst way possible.

Reviewer: maryann (Anonymous) · Date: October 27, 2008 11:10 AM · On: It's Over

omg sometimes I wonder what show people were watching seriously

brian slept with linds in college ONCE and he isnt a kid anymore he is a grown proud gay men who in many episodes shudders and talks about his distaste for pussy how anyone could think he would sleep with a women is so unrealistic. if you believe differently to that go and watch the show again!! pay attention to episode after episode where he talks about how gross pussy is. and to say he would fuck anything is a cop out, fuck anything male yeah but female you really must not have watched the same show everyone else watched

to the author - i gave this a go because you said it would be different from all the other stories like this but i was disappointed to find its just the same as all the others, daphne and brian supporting each other, giving each other looks and shoves and then there is justin again on the outside alone, its just like all the other fics like this. what a shame. and to say they slept together for comfort omfg what a joke, is this meant to be a crackfic there are so many reasons that would have been sligtlty believable like brian being in a coma or unconcuois but that was a joke



Author's Response:

Interesting, if totally corrupt point of view.

Reviewer: Gina Marie (Signed) · Date: October 27, 2008 10:02 AM · On: Author's Note

Just a side not on people's assumption that a gay man would never sleep with a woman....my question is, what rock have you been living under?

Gay men often sleep with women for different reasons.  Many gay men are married.  They like having a family with kids, but are totally gay. They just for one reason or another, don't want to come out of the closet. It is THEIR choice!  Not everyone choses to be an out gay person.

As for Brian, it's not like he's never slept with a woman. He fucked Lindsey, even told her when she gave birth that he would have fucked her if she wanted.

To me Brian is definately Gay, and loves men, but sex for him is just that, sex. He loves Justin but will fuck anything.  Like Justin accused him of in season one.  "You'll fuck anything~" Um yeah. he would.  But he wil ALWAYS go for  the guy first.  But that doesn't mean if a situation arose, and circumstances allowed, he wouldn't fuck a woman for what ever reason. Brian has his own set of rules he lives by.  Period. 

 

Reviewer: Gina Marie (Signed) · Date: October 27, 2008 09:55 AM · On: It's Over

Wow. It's going to be a long way back, that's assuming there 'is' a way back, from this disaster.

Brian and Daphne got a lot of making up, and soul searching to do.  On one hand, I can understand two people who love one person so much as Dap and Brian love Justin, commerserating with booze and sex.  Brian's usual pain management is getting so fucked up and fucked, he forgets everything else.  Perhaps he felt a connection to Justin by fucking Daph.

I'm not excusing their behavoir.  To say they should have known better is moot.  People, good people, do stupid things with the best of intentions, or not realizing what the fuck their intentions are, all the time. It's called being human and making mistakes. But some mistakes you can't fix.

I don't know if this one can be fixed I think Justin will have to do a lot of soul searching. Maybe in his journey, at some point, he'll find forgiviness in his heart.

Very bold theme you've chosen. This will not be easy to write.  Demonstrating the pain and emotions of all involved without making anyone look like the villian will be a huge challenge.

My hats off to you for taking this on!  Where ever you may take this, I will be there with you on this journey.

As for your critic's, (the emotional ones) it's testment to how much they love these characters.  I hope it doesn't deter you or influence you in any way.  Take this story where you want.  Fuck what others want or think.   It's your 'art'.  And I for one love art that provokes such strong emotions!

 

Reviewer: sjmpets3 (Signed) · Date: October 27, 2008 09:10 AM · On: It's Over

poor justin. this pain is worse than the bashing. i say keep moving. change phone numbers and let them sweat. no more excuses. 'we was drunk, we missed you. you weren't here.' bunch of BS

thanks for this update.



Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I'm so glad you like the chapter.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Emi (Anonymous) · Date: October 08, 2008 12:47 PM · On: Author's Note

Jess , I Love this story no matter what, I like Brian and Justin together but i can see why Justin would get mad, i mean anyone would get mad if they caughter their  " So called Best friend" asleep with your partner. Keep up the good work hun :)

Author's Response:

Hey Emi,

Thanks for the review, I'm glad you're enjoying the story. Justin is deff justifiable pissed.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Anonymous (Anonymous) · Date: October 08, 2008 10:55 AM · On: Author's Note

Brian is a GAY man.  He is out and comfortable/happy being gay.  He would not sleep with a woman.

Author's Response: Realllly!!! Thanks for sharing.

Reviewer: sjmpets3 (Signed) · Date: October 08, 2008 04:44 AM · On: Author's Note

jess, after something like that happened, right now if not ever can i see justin again with brian let alone trust him. and daphne, that's the cruelest thing that could have happened. forgiveness should be a foreign word to him right now.

just my thoughts.



Author's Response: Well true, as of right now, he wouldn't think of it. Right now he never wants to see either of them again.

Reviewer: Anonymous (Anonymous) · Date: October 08, 2008 03:37 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

okay people lets not get carried away i think its no big deal u guys do realize it fiction right this never happened but watever i like your story its sumthing i dont read everyday its new update soon also i have i question, Is this gonna be a bri/jus story?

sry if my review sounds rude thats not my intention

Reviewer: Curious George (Anonymous) · Date: October 08, 2008 12:03 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

I don't believe that Brian and Daphne would EVER choose to have sex with each other (only in an extremely AU world).  However, If they did, they'd deserve your stabbing scenario.  I can't imagine Justin would ever get over such betrayal -- I know I wouldn't.

I rarely read WIPs, but was too curious to pass up this first chapter.  I'll check back in when the story is completed as I'm very curious to see how you handle all this.  Best of luck!

Reviewer: onebookwoman (Anonymous) · Date: October 07, 2008 07:12 PM · On: Author's Note

I agree with you 100%.  All the other D/B stories do discount Justin's feelings.  I don't always read a new fic from the first posting but yours drew me in.  I can't wait to read whatever you have in store. 

Author's Response:

See and I find that impossible to stomach so this is me trying to make it more in real life. If you know what I mean. I'm glad you liked the chapter and I hope you enjoy the whole story.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Ashley (Anonymous) · Date: October 07, 2008 01:16 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

No disrespect meant but if you are going to have Daphne and Brian aware of their actions (like they knew they were sleeping with each other) than it would be impossible to make this believable that it would be forgotten about over time. If they are both aware who they are about to sleep with, take the time to put on a condom then they were fully aware to know what they were both doing so they just disregarded Justin and decided to have sex anyway, Its one thing to get past cheating but when its the 2 most important people in your life I would love to meet a person who could get past that.

 

My main comment is in regards to the Brian fucking a women. From a gay mans mouth 'It would not happen'. If Brian was able to make sure he had a condom on and get it up he was in a clear enough state of mind to know what he was doing and would not sleep with a women. No disrespect meant but do you see how crazy that is so how are the readers supposed to concentrate on the story when your just thinking 'as if that would ever happen' Sure some people in their younger years may experiment or do it just for the heck but not someone like Brian who was completely gay and didnt have the slightest bit of attraction to women at all. As a gay man I really think you need to consider this aspect when continuing with this story, otherwise it borders on becoming another crackfic where Brian sleeps with a women.

Reviewer: Natalie (Anonymous) · Date: October 07, 2008 12:52 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

A good Author/ Writer knows that if you want you work taken seriously the reader needs to be able to feel the emotions but also to see it happening or believe it could.

Brian would not sleep with a women at the age he is. He talks about his distaste for pussy throughout the whole series it just wouldnt happen. To say he was just drunk or high just doesnt cut it, because he was drunk and high alot and never slept with a women. It makes the story seem lame and you and your story are better than that. Im not saying to make Daphne a villain and have her drugging him but another solution needs to be thought of because he would need to be delirious or not awake. He would not be aware of his actions or it would never happen. The reader would have too much trouble believing it would happen and that distracts off the story and the other emotions etc you are trying to portray.

We arent talking about a gay man who may occasionally sleep with women we are talking about Brian Fucking Kinney who hates pussy, think about it

Reviewer: Shirley Bennett (Anonymous) · Date: October 07, 2008 12:25 PM · On: Author's Note


Thank you for this note. I have been tearing my hair out about this and at 72 years of age...that ain't good. Read some of those other stories and as a total Justin lover..always have been always will be...I was wounded for the blith manner in which he was treated. To be honest I do not know how this situation could come to any solution that could stand the test of time. Betrayal like PTSS lives forever in our minds and hearts.  

Author's Response:

I think that it true for most people, but let's be honest here, we're not talking about most people. I know people on both sides of this fence which is why I thought I could do it more justice then it has been done before. I know people who were able to forgive and some who could never so hopefully I can pull this story off well enough to show that. Thanks for reading and reviewing.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Beth (Anonymous) · Date: October 07, 2008 12:22 PM · On: Author's Note

YAY for you being on Justins side, I am totally behind him too, fuck the other two bastards!!!!

I have read other stories where Brian and Daphne become best friends, dont think what they did was that bad, Brian becomes all sweet and soft and hangs out with Daphne and the baby 24/7 they basically become a family without the sex which is just such utter bullshit. Its so fake. Brian Kinney would not behave like that towards anyone even Daphne. he didnt behave like that with Lindsay and he loves her and had a past and a relationship with her. He doesnt love Daphne and he certainly isnt going to treat her better than he treated Lindsay, Mikey or Justin.

If Mikey slept with Justin, Brian would never forgive Mikey because Brian had a shit time as a kid and the only person he could depend on without a doubt was Mikey, he was his rock, and Daphne is Justins Mikey so the same applies there, to me a reconciliation between them all would be so fake it would be a mockery, but you write whatever you want.

Like you said the baby just makes it all worse, Im sorry but even a saint would not forgive them.

As long as Justin is not treated like hes got a problem, its his fault, he should just get over it or as I said above with Brian and Daphne becoming best friends etc then i am in for the ride.

But I do have a problem with Brian sleeping with Daphne when she is a girl, I have trouble getting past that because its just too fake. Brian is such a gay man him sleeping with a women isnt even slighlty perceivable so i do admit I am hopeing he was either unconcious, drugged and not realised who she was and that she was a women or something otherwise it just makes it seem too fake to me.



Author's Response:

Well, as I said they were parameters in writing this story. Brian and Daphne would have to sleep together being the main one. Do I believe that they would, no. Do I discount it as impossible, again no because if you decide that people can't do something, let me assure you, you will end up surprised at some point. Every single person in this world is capable of all sorts of things, whether they do those things or not is completely situational. That goes for Brian and Daphne sleeping together as well as Justin forgiving them, I'm just hoping to write the situation well enough that people can see that.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: alys (Anonymous) · Date: October 07, 2008 12:00 PM · On: Author's Note

I'm looking fwd to reading more of this story. I have to say I agree w/ you it is a betrayal to Justin, and he should rightfully be pi####D! I'm glad you'll forgoe the blood. 

Author's Response:

Aww see and I was waiting for someone to agree with me so I could have him stab them. LOL. Thanks for the review, I'm glad you're enjoying the story.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: BrianaWriter (Anonymous) · Date: October 07, 2008 11:26 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

Hi, again Sam, don't mean to run this in the ground.  but often I'll misunderstood because I write here and most of my response is for concern for the writer. 

Many people was making out that this story was impossible to write.  I was just encouraging the writer to write his/her story regardless. 

If you write it well you could convince some people and if your story doesn't convince anyone just to be happy with what you wrote.  That is the simple point I was trying to make. 

Maybe I could have used differently words to express it but like I said you write fast here sometimes and things don't always come out like U intended.



Author's Response:

Well, I have no problem if you'd like to comment on any and every little thing. I like to know what my readers think. Whereas I agree with you that I'm going to write this story and thus it's not impossible, I don't mind that others think it is. People have different views on how others should deal with things in their lives. But as we can't chose for others I guess everyone will have to lives their lives as they see fit and obviously, because I'm writing it, my Justin will end up making the hard choice. But like I said it's his too make and I just hope everyone gets that. Thanks for all the get comments.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: BrianaWriter (Signed) · Date: October 07, 2008 10:57 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

Sam, I have absolutely no issues with other peoples opinion I realized we all don't think alike however U write your little comments here  very quickly and they don't always come out exactly like U like so often people are misunderstood.  And my comment was for someone that didn't agree with my opinion and I was simply saying how differntly I saw it.

Reviewer: Lauren (Anonymous) · Date: October 07, 2008 10:33 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

My beliefs are abit different maybe to others, I think you can get past alot of things and faults with your partner if they are honest with you, if you dont have trust you dont have a relationship. Brian was brutally honest and like Justin said to him at the end of season 5 Brian was the only one who never broke a promise to him. If someone is unfaithful and tells the person straight away sometimes it can work again because the trust can be built abit easier but here Justin will never trust either of them again, even if you wanted so much to trust them and forget what happened the trust is smashed and no trust means no relationship, not a healthy one anyway. Without the baby in time maybe it could have been fixed but every time Justin sees the child as it grows up with parts of Daphne's features mixed with parts of Brian it will be a knife twisting in his stomach and his mind will go straight back to that moment in the loft when his life was shattered in the worst way. It will be easy for Daphne and Brian to move on, Daphne can get herself a boyfriend if she doesnt already have one and she will find happiness and can make a family. Brian will either get a new partner or just trick and live however he wants, at times they will both probably remember what they did and feel bad but for them life will move on and eventually they will not think of it much at all. Justin won be so lucky every new relationship he will carry the battle wounds of the love of his life and the best friend and other most important person in his life doing the unthinkable. Its a funny thing how the people in the wrong often move on reasonably unaffected longterm by it but for the one who is hurt like Justin in this story the pain and ramifications never go away.

Its abit like Brian, he is so screwed up in ways because of his childhood. I know people who had bad times as a child and it stays with them even later in life.



Author's Response:

Hey Lauren,

I believe that in many instances you are right, the innocent pay far more than the guilty. Here though I think we will have to look at first the person who was betrayed, and the inner strength that Justin has and has always had. There are so many factors that contribute to how one deals with things that I think assuming that someone we don't know can't do something is not the right course of action. I find that people surprise me quite frequently with what they will put up with or are willing to forgive and I think we should take that into account when we look at things like this. Also that just because we couldn't do something or someone we know couldn't doesn't mean that' true for everyone. Thanks for your thoughts on the subject, I relish comments, lol.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Sam (Anonymous) · Date: October 07, 2008 10:06 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, Brianwriter I have seen you leave multiple reviews disputing peoples oppinions and this isnt your story, everyone has different beliefs and ways of life and thats ok. As for Brians behaviour, he was always honest and while extreme you would be surprised how many women and men out there live similar to him. The issue people are having with this story is unless you were a saint this wouldnt be forgotton, forgiven maybe, you could possibly remain friends (I doubt close friends though) with both of them but be in any sort of relationship with either again - nah wouldnt happen. I have enjoyed reading all these reviews its obvious to me that quite afew people have gone through this situation or known of someone who has and I applaud you all for reviewing, I am sure it was not easy to write about, I personally like to stick my head in the sand and pretend things didnt happen and try not to think about them but alas that doesnt work forever



Author's Response:

Hey Sam,

I would say that I'm sorry that I seem to have caused some comotion but really I'm glad people are sharing their opions on this. This story started from a that's bullshit place and the challange was to make it as real as I could within the confines of the story. I agree with everyone that this isn't going to be an easy thing to deal with and it's the most horrific betrayal but I have to say we cannot in any good concions chose how others should react to something. Everyone is different and the way they deal with their lives is up to them so anything is possible. I hope I pull off making this story as realistic as possible.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: BrianaWriter (Signed) · Date: October 07, 2008 09:43 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

I guess it's due to the genius writers of QAF that we have any compassion for Justin and Brian's relationship at all.  Justin's forgiven Brian for a lot of crap (by simply saying that he never promised him anything) that I could have never forgiven my lover for, could you... I'm speaking real life now?  Could you forgive your lover, for the sex, drugs, alcohol, etc.

Brian, having sex with other people right before Justin's very eyes, throwing him out of the house, getting him a hustler for his birthday, and I guess I can go on and on but still we all forgave Brian as well. WHY?  Because the writing of the show was just that good. 

In real life would you have forgiven Brian and would you have any respect for anyone who you know personally that would have put up with all that Justin did from Brian? 

Be honest:  NO!



Author's Response: I have to somewhat agree with your point here, most people would not have been able to have the relationship that Brian and Justin had. But I guess that illustrates the point of this story, not everyone is like everyone else and thus the expectations on how they would react to something cannot be the same for everyone. Every person, every relationship is different and with be dealt with differently.

Reviewer: Trish (Anonymous) · Date: October 07, 2008 09:28 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

I disagree that this should be taken lightly and as fun, this is clearly meant to be an angsty serious story and if done well it will be a very powerful story indeed but as far as the great forgive/to not forgive goes no matter how great a writer is you cant make an impossible situation possible if you want it to be taken as a serious story and anyone who says or thinks they would forgive them is fooling themselves and clearly hasnt been in this situation or atleast had a person close to them go through it.

You might forgive but you NEVER forget and thats where the problem is, it eats away at you until you resent the people so much looking at them is too hard.

If you just write for fun and entertainment then no matter what you do thats fine but if you write to be a serious writer and want your stories taken seriously then you need to consider whats realistic, whats possible etc. While I do also think everyone is different on what they will forgive you need to remember the lasting effects something like this has, the person betrayed will always remember it but needs to find a way to move on and who in their right mind could see Brian and Daphne and their child even in 10 years time and not flinch and feel pain at what they had done, so if Justin forgives them hes going to be flinching and living in pain mentally for the rest of his life, considering what he has endured already I doubt he would put himself through that. The sad thing is alot of people try to and it shatters them inside and makes them half a person and by the time they get out of the 'toxic situations' they are so damaged and untrusting that it ruins their new relationships too, its a never ending scar



Author's Response:

Hey Trish,

Okay to say that this is an impossible situation is to say that everyone is exactly the same and thus their reactions the same. Now I know in this fandom we know that isn't true. We love two men whose relationship if we were in, well we'd be out of it real soon because we couldn't deal with that. But it wasn't our relationship because these people aren't us. Now I'm not saying that this isn't a complete and utter betrayal and that it's not going to be the worst thing that has happened to their relationship but impossible, no. I want to thank you for sharing your thoughts on this matter though, I love to hear what my readers think, and it deff tends to sway things for me.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: BrianaWriter (Signed) · Date: October 07, 2008 09:25 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

No disrespect to the author, but I read the story, and I've just read all the reviews to this point, and I got to say I don't know what is more interesting the story or the reviews LOL.

Author's Response: Umm *raises eyebrow* Well, fine. LOL

Reviewer: Cara (Anonymous) · Date: October 07, 2008 09:14 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

Ethan made one mistake when he cheated on Justin and Justin never forgave him, obviously he didnt love him as much as Brian but my point is that Justin is a strong self-respecting man who is going to be so hurt and disgusted by these 2 trailor park trashies hes not going to forgive them.

If Daphne was any kind of friend she wouldnt even tell them about the baby she would just leave the area and not speak to them again, and give them the chance to heal even though imho thats never gonna happen. Her and the baby always in Justins face and around Brian is going to kill any hope of a reunion

I cant remeber the name of a fic but there was one like this where Daphne and Brian became best friends afterwards and he was all kind and caring towards her, putting her and the baby first and treated her better than he ever treated Justin and I hope thats not the way this is heading because Brian can be an abrasive ass to anyone sometimes and it would not be Brian to be all sweet and caring towards her, its just to faux, he is not going to want a baby and especially to her because hes going to know deep down that Justin will never want him again, he can kiss the sunshine goodbye

Reviewer: BrianaWriter (Signed) · Date: October 07, 2008 09:13 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

Hey! I say if you are a good enuff writer... write your story.  People are saying this isn't forgivable, that isn't forgivable.  But I say it depends on the individual what they can and can not forgive.  I mean at this point no one know what direction U plan to take this in anyway but if goiing the forgiveness route, if you do a good enuff job mayB U can convince a few people.

However, I agree with everyone else in the sense that it's a hard task to take on but not an impossible one.  It's all in how the writer does it. 

Take Westside Story, Marie forgave Tony for killing her brother (although it's was an accident some people wouldn't be able to see beyond it regardless.  Anita sure couldn't... she wasn't happy until Tony was dead as well.) 

So, I say give it a shot... do a good job and you just might leave so critiques eating their words.  And if not, remember it's all in FUN!  Nobody here needs to Steinbeck or Anne Rice for that matter (did I spell either of those authors names right?)

Reviewer: Sasha (Anonymous) · Date: October 07, 2008 08:36 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

interesting plot my thoughts however are that to have Justin forgive either of them would be so fake, unfortunately I have seen this very thing happen to several people throughout my life and it never ends well. If the boyfriend is not a serious one sometimes the friend can be forgiven but the friendship is never strong or the same, in this situation though Brian is Justins 'true love' sorry for the cornyness and Daphne knows this so there is no forgiving a friend let alove best friend who does that, there is NOTHING worse Daphne could have done to Justin, killing him would have been better than doing that so to have him forgive her would be so fake. I wouldnt reccomend forgiving Brian either, the trust will never be there and the betrayal will always be there when Justin looks at him. To forgive a cheating partner and get past it is incredibly hard and again if its someone the partner doesnt know or someone that isnt that important to the partner its one thing but when you have a family member, friend, work collegue etc it takes on a whole new form of betrayal and it never ends well. It would be nice to live in delusion and have everything fixed and go well but thats not realistic sometimes no matter how much you want to forgive or fix a relationship it just isnt possible. I want to add that with adding a baby you have sealed the fate of them never working it out because again you have the constant reminder of the betrayal and often when this happens the 'victim' will try to forgive one of the parties but cant forgive both because to see them together or hear one talk about the other the reminder of what they did is there so unless you have daphne move away and brian never contact the child and talk about them theres no way to get a justin/brian relationship back

Reviewer: BrianaWriter (Signed) · Date: October 07, 2008 04:00 AM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

Very interesting premises 4 yur story and I hope it's 1 that U finish. 

However, just as interesting, I'dlike 2 C how U respond to all those juicy reviews/comments. 



Author's Response:

First I would like to thank you for the review. Second I would like to say, I do and will finish all my stories. Third well I guess we'll have to see LOL.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Ally (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 11:17 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

and thankyou for not having the het scene and just implying what happened, the situation is already terrible enough without getting scarred from het sex between those two, yuck lol

Reviewer: Ally (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 11:15 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

I feel sorry for that child having to grow up with parents that have no ethics and morals and are just scum! I too hope Jus gets a new man who treats him right, Brandon would be good and engaged to him even better that would rip Brians heart out which is just what he deserves. The best way to get back at people is to move on, cut them out of our life and be happy, then they have to watch you happy with someone else and know that they are the cause of it! I hope you have finished this story or will update often, I dont want to wait!

Author's Response:

Thanks for reading and reviewing, I'm so glad you like the story. As for what Brian and Daphne did, if they ever hope to get back in with Justin it's going to be a hard road deff. As for Brandon as I don't like him and find him ugly I would never put him with Justin, or anyone else for that matter.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Sling (Signed) · Date: October 06, 2008 09:10 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

*sniff* You know hon you are really evil to our poor Jussin... first the thing with hobbs now this one

But I'm glad you're posting this story finally can't wait for the rest of it btw Awesome banner ;) I'm glad you got one I'm really sorry that I didn't make you one .... forgive me? 

Kiss Tina 



Author's Response:

Thanks for reading and reviewing, Tina. I'm glad you like the story, even if I am poking a stick quite hard at Justin once again. I'm glad you like the baner, I know you would have done it if you had the time and I'm not angry at you.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: David (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 08:25 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

Then there is the banner which indicates Daphne becomes pregnant. The story is listed in the unsafe sex category, if you use a condom even if its breaks it wouldnt normally be considered unsafe unless they do it raw. That is not believable in so many ways. No matter how drunk or high Brian was he always used a condom. it was a rule he lived by so you cant use the he was drunk or high because for 15-20 years he never did it without a condom so to have the story going that angle isnt believable.

If they did use a condom they were aware enough of their actions to use a condom so you cant go the angle they were drunk, high, confused etc, so again unbelievable. Considering Brian lives alot of his life high and drunk he wouldnt just forget this one time that he happens to be sleeping with his partners female friend. Not trying to be a broken record but again unbelievable.

I hope you can understand what I am trying to say, while it is just a story you have great talent and all good writers and authors have to take into consideration what is going to be realistic and a good author knows if its believable it will envoke alot more emotion from the reader and when stories get too far fetched with the plot/storylines it can be mistaken for a crack fic because its so impossible to believe or see it happening.

Reviewer: David (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 08:09 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

If you were going to use this plot you should have given Justin a male best friend. Its just not believable a gay man that isnt a young confused teen would sleep with their partner or even ex partners female friend.

Being high or drunk is a poor excuse people use when they dont have the balls to admit to their actions. Even when you are high as a kite, drunk off your ass or both you are still aware of your actions and it certainly does not make a gay man who isnt into women at all sleep with a women. Yes we all know Brian slept with Lindsay in college but he was a young man and he had a relationship with her, he loved her even though he wasnt in love with her and was young, he would not sleep with a women at his age especially one he has no relationship with like Daphne.

If you were going to have him sleep with a women the only believeable option would have been to have Lindsay as the female.

Daphne sleeping with Brian isnt believable either, she was always there for Justin and I felt in alot of ways she was in love with him, similar to how Lindsay felt about Brian and she just wouldnt cross that line. It might be just a story but to write a good, serious, angst story it has to be realistic, so the best friend should have been male or if you wanted to go the female angle you should have used Lindsay.

Brian and Justin like everyone had their ups and downs but Brian was always looking out for Justin and loved him on such a deep level and while he tricked and hurt Justin in ways it was never anything severe, he was always trying to make Justins life better or easier whether they were apart or not so to then have him go and do something so vicious and out of character makes it hard to believe.

Then their is the whole fact that Brian never slept with Michael his own best friend who he loved but like Lindsay wasnt in love with. One of his strong beliefs was you dont fuck your friends, Daphne being Justins best friend makes her his friend too and this is another reason that makes it not as believable. I hope you take this constructively because your writing and main idea was fantastic, but it really needed abit more thought to take it to that next level of being believable and therefore making it a really powerful piece of writing

Reviewer: Bec (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 05:00 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

Please tell me Michael, Lindsay or someone else slipped them some sort of weird phsyco drug that made Brian think he was with Justin and Daphne think she was with some other guy, Brian and Daphne would never betray Justin like that and if they did well fuck them, and good riddance. Maybe Justin should go knock Lindsay and Brians sister up    :p

Reviewer: Tina (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 04:41 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

first fic ive read where I hate Daphne, who needs enemies with a friend like that. Im not even going to comment on Brian hes not worth it. Literally stabbing Justin in his heart would have hurt less than what they did. Im with the others who say new man for Justin and let the other two have lonely miserable lives, they dont deserve happiness after treating someone they claim to love so poorly.

Reviewer: Milly (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 03:57 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

Daphne is no best friend, she knows what Justin has been through, how much he loves Brian, in alot of ways after Craig disowned Justin and the bashing etc Daphne was Justins main support and that just makes what she has done so wrong, the sight of her would make you physiclly ill, Justin needs to get a new best friend. Brian is a mean pathetic excuse for a man and same as Daphne he has seen what Justin has gone through and he couldnt have done anything worse to him except sleep with a member of Justins family and Daphne practically is Justins family, Justin probably trusted Brian more than anyone so the damage to Justins mind and heart is going to be unrepairable. So what to do next, my vote is for a new partner how about Brandon *evil grin* karma is a bitch Brian. I would suggest Justin sleep with Mikey but that is just too horrific rofl, I like the Brandon option MUCH better *smiles sweetly*

Reviewer: Stacey (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 03:15 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

I have seen this scenario afew times in real life to people I know. Both times a female friend of mines boyfriend slept with her best female friend and here were the outcomes. One couldnt be around either she couldnt even look at them so she ended up leaving the area as she couldnt take the constant reminders and betrayal, even in her relationships after that she has very bad trust issues now and the relationships always suffer due to her just not being able to trust the men or her female friends, its very sad and my other friend tried to save her relationship with her friend and boyfriend but she was constantly anxious and fearing they were seeing each other behind her back (even though to my knowledge it never happened again) the problem is when this sort of betrayal takes place even with counselling often the emotional damage is too severe, even on the surface they may seem to be fine but inside they are being torn apart by the fear, anger, sadness etc. Sorry for the ramble, just wanted to share a real perspective, too many stories dont take reality into consideration and have the characters doing things and forgiving things that realistically sometimes there is no going back, I think Brian has finally pushed Justin off a cliff so high justin wont be able to climb back up, after all Justin has been through emotionally this is the lowest thing Brian could have done to Justin and in many ways it would be degrading for Justin to take him back

Reviewer: Rach (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 02:46 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

OMFG, not only did B sleep with D he let her stay the night and gets her knocked up, I hope Justin kicks their skanky behinds to the curb, never speaks to them again and gets a new man thats hotter than Brian and moves on with his life and leaves them trashy hos in the trailer park, hehe he deserves better than that, tell me you are going to update quick!!!!!!!!!!

Author's Response:

Hehe, I loved your review, mind if I use the words skanky and trashy hos in the story??? so beautiful and spot on descriptions. LOL Thanks for sharing your thoughts they were fun. LOL

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Sara (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 02:41 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

You captured Justins heartbreak so well, like I seriously felt sick and my heart was thudding in my chest it was so awful. I want to point out one thing that annoyed me though was when Brian defended Daphne by telling Justin not to be angry with her or whatever, I have read 2 similar stories in the past that always have Brian and Daphne siding together and Justin on the outter and it makes it unreadable so I will wait to see what happens next but if its going to be another story with them siding together and defending each other I probably wont continue to read, also the banner has a baby so obviously Daphne gets pregnant and although IMO if I was Justin I wouldnt forgive them for what theyve done already I have to add that if they did it raw when Brian would never do it raw with Justin that really would be no way in hell Justin would ever forgive him no matter how much ass kissing they did lol

Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I'm glad that Justin's heartbreak came across well. As for the other stories you are referring to, well this one was kind of written in responce to those as that fact irratated me as well. Also don't worry there was a condom. And ass kissing will be involved...a lot of it.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Cass (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 02:31 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

I agree with Matts review, I want to ask how many chapters until its complete? I dont want to read until its completed

Author's Response:

I'm sorry, I wish I knew, I don't plan my stories like that, it doesn't work for me, I've tried.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Matt (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 02:30 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

I really hope that this wont be another story where Justin is made out to be the one in the wrong. Daphne and Brians behaviour is unforgiveable and there is no fixing that. But if you are going to have Justin forgive them please dont have him trying to fix things or Daphne and Brian becoming best friends and leaving him out they need to BEG him for forgiveness and even then considering Brian is gay he wouldnt just sleep with Daphne because he was horny so the only reason would be to hurt Justin, gay men that are fully gay like Brian (young teens maybe but not a grown gay man adult) dont just sleep with women because they are drunk, high whatever so Im not sure how this would work

Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I promise this will not be that kind of story. Actually it's kind of written in responce to those kind of stories. Brian and Daph have a lot to make up for and it won't be easy.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Anonymous (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 01:56 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

AHHHH!!!!!! i cant wait to read more! this reminds me of another story and i didnt like how justin handled the situation, but this one seems more interesting. you've officially got me hooked so please update soon =)

Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I'm glad you liked it and I hope my Justin handles it better.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: Jersey (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 01:55 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

I've never read a story with this kind of twist before. I really think its a marvellous idea you had !

Still, it is heartbreaking to see  Justin caught the 2 most important persons in his life together in bed!!!

F**k ! Even I stopped breathing for a few seconds, when the duvet was pull out of the way...

Then, this sentence of yours (don't know why though):<"I don’t want to SEE either of you EVER again"> made me think of the scene when Justin screams to his father "that he's never coming home again... NEVER AGAIN!" with a broken voice, so full of pain... And I felt my heart ache so much for Justin and his faith all over again !

I wonder how things will go now ? It is the worse kind of betrayal you can experience, even if its a stupid mistake... 

For once, I wish Justin won't forgive Daphne and Brian too easily and rapidly!

Let them sweat and beg to regain Justin's trust!!! Let Justin be noble and strong despite his suffering !

Update soon! As you see, I am  *consume* by your story ! Lol!  

See ya, Jersey :))



Author's Response:

Thanks for reading and reviewing. I know this is a shocking twist. I promise Justin won't forgive right away as this is something you can't just forgive that easily.

Later, Jessica

Reviewer: sjmpets3 (Signed) · Date: October 06, 2008 01:33 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

OMFG!  BRIAN AND DAPHNE HAD SEX? OMFG!

Author's Response: Yeah no shit, what the fuck were they thinking, opppsss obviously nothing the idiots.

Reviewer: Buffytess (Anonymous) · Date: October 06, 2008 01:33 PM · On: The Ultimate Betrayal

oohhh poor Justin, once again he is betrayed and by his lover and best friend  what a blow. Please update as soon as you can i like to see where this is going.

 

Hugs Buffytess 



Author's Response:

Thanks for the review, I know I tend to poke a stick at Justin, but our boy can handle it. It was deff a horrible thing, we'll ave to see how he deals with it.

Later, Jessica

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