Midnight Whispers
QAF Brian and Justin Fanfiction
Reviews For Monogamy
Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 07:28 PM · On: A Close Call

much much better ending than the tv show.

Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 07:16 PM · On: Until You Say 'I Do,' You Can Still Say 'I Won't'

Good thing there's always Deb to knock sense into the boys.

Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 07:13 PM · On: Deb

someone had to talk sense into Justin.

Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 07:08 PM · On: "Wish Me Luck"

such a wholesome chapter.

Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 07:02 PM · On: The Test

This is getting out of hand. Someone should tell Brian how monogamy works...if he wants that.

Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 07:01 PM · On: "Let's Do It"

That last sentence is so accurante for how Brian acted.

Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 06:57 PM · On: "The Prisoner Respectfully Chooses Not to Partake of His Last Meal . . ."

This is hilarious and sad at the same time.

Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 06:51 PM · On: Mr. I-Believe-In-Fucking-Not-Love

Heart-wrenching...

Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 06:49 PM · On: Suggle-Wuggle

Damn, Brian's mind is a mess. Poor guy.

Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 06:45 PM · On: No F'ing Way

The initial marriage proposal was surely a shock to Justin's system.

Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 06:41 PM · On: Assumptions

Brian is acting so weird...and again with the talking. If only he'd talk to Justin...there would be no need for him to worry about monogamy.

Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 06:33 PM · On: The Bomb

There was such raw fear during the bombing...so tangible.

Reviewer: addict_writer (Signed) · Date: July 16, 2023 06:30 PM · On: "Maybe You'd Rather Just Cuddle"

Just discovered this gem. I'm absolutely loving it so far.

Reviewer: SunshineSally (Signed) · Date: August 06, 2015 03:09 AM · On: A Close Call

IN YOUR FACE, COWLIP! That is how it should have ended, perfection. And I love them doing it raw for the first time when they know he'll be going to NY, but they'll still be married. I just can't deal with how perfect this was!

Reviewer: SunshineSally (Signed) · Date: August 06, 2015 02:11 AM · On: The Test

I feel sorry for Brian, he has no idea how to behave in these sort of situations - talking isn't his strong point and nor are relationships. He is doing what he thinks he should be doing. Aw

Reviewer: SunshineSally (Signed) · Date: August 06, 2015 01:46 AM · On: Assumptions

These boys need to just sit down and talk LOL

Reviewer: SunshineSally (Signed) · Date: August 06, 2015 01:37 AM · On: The Bomb

I want to cuddle Brian so much omg

Reviewer: SunshineSally (Signed) · Date: August 06, 2015 01:34 AM · On: "Maybe You'd Rather Just Cuddle"

Oooooooh

Reviewer: Anonymous (Anonymous) · Date: July 08, 2015 03:09 AM · On: "Maybe You'd Rather Just Cuddle"

As for an open marriage - I'm not an expert by any means, but I've always gotten the impression that an open marriage envisions some degree of personal intimacy between the non-spousal partners.  If that's true, then Brian and Justin will definitely *not* have an open marriage.  But if it just means occasional sex outside of marriage . . . . well, like I said, stick with me.

 

I'm not an expert too but nonetheless I think I can help you out there a little bit even when it doesn't help for your story anymore.

There are all kind of relationships in the non-monogamous area. I include only consenual relationship models.

  • both people in the relationship non-monogamous, but with rules what is acceptable or not which always makes me think that CowLip are not as clueless about open relationships than people think because they let Brian talk about rules in regard to non-monogamy with Michael in season 1 and then we have the 2.06 rules scene between Brian and Justin, but the contact with others is limited to sexual acts, the rules depend on what the two people in the relationship wants them to be
  • mixed relationships which means one person monogamous the other not but also with rules and only sexual acts

That it is for the only sexual acts and nothing emotional area (as far as I know) which is what Brian and Justin are practicing. There are also relationship models where people have two or more romantic relationships at the same time but that doesn't matter in this case because Brian obviously doesn't have any interest in romantic relationships with other people.

And to come back to your open marriage statement, an open marriage normally means occasional sex outside of the marriage without emotional bonds to the other people unless the two people in the marriage defines it otherwise. So basically when people are saying "we have an open marriage" they mean "we are not monogamous" otherwise it would be polyamory (at least that's how I understand it). Polyamory for example would have been if Justin would have opened up about Ethan and would have said to Brian "I love you both" and Brian would have said "Ok. I accept that you have another boyfriend besides me".



Author's Response:

This is quite informative and useful.  Thank you!

Reviewer: 7wildwaysup (Signed) · Date: July 04, 2015 10:01 PM · On: Deb

I'm sorry but that was harsh! Maybe Brian has gone over the top, but to say he hasn't and won't change isn't accurate... He has grown, and he has changed and he does love Justin, they just need to talk... But I have a feeling this fic is going to leave me feeling worse that the end of 513...

Author's Response:

They do need to talk, indeed . . . and they do.  This story has an AU ending.  The summary is "the wedding is on."

Reviewer: Brynneth (Anonymous) · Date: June 20, 2015 03:59 AM · On: A Close Call

Totally loved this!



Author's Response:

I'm so glad :)

Reviewer: Toto_too514 (Anonymous) · Date: June 19, 2015 06:48 PM · On: Across the Hall

I liked it then, and I very much like it now!



Author's Response:

I was thinking about a sequel, but then I realized I'd already written one!  I'm glad you like it.  I had tons of fun searching for the sappy cards :)

Reviewer: Carol (Anonymous) · Date: June 19, 2015 12:19 AM · On: A Close Call

Hallelujah :)



Author's Response:

I'm glad you liked it  :)

Reviewer: chandrika (Anonymous) · Date: June 18, 2015 11:32 PM · On: "Maybe You'd Rather Just Cuddle"

great story

thank you for sharing



Author's Response:

You're very welcome.  I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 18, 2015 05:50 AM · On: A Close Call

Bravo!!!  An ending I can live with and a lot of HOT sex.  Way ta go.



Author's Response:

Yay!!  I'm so glad the ending worked for you.  I sweated over it.  As always, thank you so much for your encouraging comments along the way.  They meant a lot to me :)

Reviewer: Toto_too514 (Anonymous) · Date: June 18, 2015 03:00 AM · On: A Close Call

In my humble opinion. you got the ending exactly right!



Author's Response:

Oh, I like your humble opinion :)  Thank you!

Reviewer: Tagsit (Anonymous) · Date: June 18, 2015 02:22 AM · On: "Maybe You'd Rather Just Cuddle"

Boy you write fast! LOL! I haven't even started this and you're already done! Way to go, Fray!  TAG



Author's Response:

Too fast!!  I think I should've taken this slower because the ending feels too abrupt to me.  Then again, as you probably know, one gets to the point where they're, like, I am DONE with this story.  That's what happened here.

 

Reviewer: Carol (Anonymous) · Date: June 18, 2015 01:06 AM · On: Until You Say 'I Do,' You Can Still Say 'I Won't'

I don't really know what to say 😕 except TALK TO EACH OTHER instead of making assumptions and listening to other people. It s all horribly plausible so far but I m cautiously hopeful, you promised an AU ending after all :)



Author's Response:

I did indeed - in fact, I just posted it :)

Reviewer: Astrid (Signed) · Date: June 17, 2015 09:53 PM · On: Until You Say 'I Do,' You Can Still Say 'I Won't'

Please please please tell me you are not going to break them up! Marriage or no marriage, open or not, they belong together. Make them talk.
I also want to punch Debbie - of course Brian is not everything he is right now trying to be, but I believe that he wanted some changes.



Author's Response:

Make them talk?  I'm going to lock them in a closet till they sort it out.  LOL!  Well, not exactly, but close.  I just posted the final chapter.  I hope you enjoy it :)

Reviewer: Elaine (Anonymous) · Date: June 17, 2015 06:49 PM · On: Until You Say 'I Do,' You Can Still Say 'I Won't'

Fuck...I kinda hate all his friends in this! Especially Deb. It seems so black and white. Don't get married...Let him go...No talk of compromises. Just one or the other. ARG!!

Deb butting in and telling them what to do. Not even suggesting, but telling. No one being supportive of either of them really. Everyone thinking they know what's best for them. 

Heart is breaking for the 2 of them. They really need to talk! figure out what each REALLY wants rather than wht they think the other wants. too many assumptions.

LOVEING this....can you really tie it all up in just 1 chapter?



Author's Response:

That is an excellent question - I just posted the final chapter.  You'll have to tell me what you think.  I think a couple of the threads were left dangling, but I was suffering from exhausted writer syndrome and did the best I could :)

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 17, 2015 05:35 AM · On: Until You Say 'I Do,' You Can Still Say 'I Won't'

No, Deb  is not right.  She can't be thinking that Brian will be happier to go back to the way he was. Is there anyone who will intervine and tell those boys that breaking up is not the right thing to do?



Author's Response:

The boys need to think for themselves for a change, doggone it!  Hence the AU ending ;)

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 17, 2015 05:30 AM · On: Deb

Debbie doesn't know shit and having her tell Justin that Brian is incapable of changing is enough to have me strangle her.



Author's Response:

Yes, that is where Deb is really and truly wrong.  Some of her other points are well founded, but saying Brian can't - or won't - change isn't one of them.

Reviewer: Blossomlegs (Signed) · Date: June 17, 2015 02:12 AM · On: Deb

Deb was very harsh about Brian to Justin. In my opinion I don't think she really knows him either, regarding him not wanting to change or needing to change somewhat, of course he doesn't want to be what he THINKS Justin wants him to be, that is the problem. They don't want to lose each other, but they still don't know how to go about it.

TALKING!!!!!!!

Fantastic. thanks for sharing!



Author's Response:

You are very welcome!  Thank you for commenting.

Poor Brian - he really loses his way for a while in Season 5 and not just when it comes to the proposal/house thing.  The whole contest with Brandon was basically a call for help.  I think he ends up in a good place, though, in terms of his growth as a person - the sad thing, of course, is that just when he becomes loveable and capable of love, everyone leaves him :(

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 16, 2015 05:53 AM · On: "Wish Me Luck"

Nicely done.  Hope things go well.



Author's Response:

Thank you :)

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 16, 2015 05:47 AM · On: The Test

They really, really need to talk.



Author's Response:

That kind of sums up this story in a nutshell, doesn't it?

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 16, 2015 05:45 AM · On: "Let's Do It"

At least he didn't say he bought if for his prince.  That always struck me as being out of character.  Seemed like the writers weren't feeling Brian and Justin.



Author's Response:

I don't know  - I think it was more of an indication of just how *crazy* Brian got after the bombing.  He's barely recognizable.  That said, I have heard that Gale hated that line and tried to get rid of it - clearly he thought it was wildly OoC even in such extraordinary circumstances.

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 16, 2015 05:42 AM · On: "The Prisoner Respectfully Chooses Not to Partake of His Last Meal . . ."

Mikey stikes again.  If it weren't for this so called batchlore party, things would have turned out differently.



Author's Response:

Do you think so???  Interesting.  I don't know.  I think Brian's resentment would have found another reason to reveal itself even if the whole trick thing at the party hadn't happened.

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 16, 2015 05:30 AM · On: Mr. I-Believe-In-Fucking-Not-Love

Thank goodness he made it home in one piece.  Now to fix his thinking.



Author's Response:

Ah!  There's the rub, yes?

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 16, 2015 05:23 AM · On: Suggle-Wuggle

Okay, Justin, stop this train wreck before it happens.l



Author's Response:

LOL!  If only!

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 16, 2015 04:59 AM · On: No F'ing Way

The question of why Justin is turning Brian down is a good one.



Author's Response:

I think he sensed that Brian wasn't in his right mind - which is true, he wasn't.  My big issue with that scene isn't what Justin said and did, it was *how* he said and did it.  Calling Brian's proposal "ridiculous"?  HARSH!

Reviewer: Blossomlegs (Signed) · Date: June 16, 2015 01:01 AM · On: "Wish Me Luck"

Brilliant chapters 9& 10 along with whole fic!

Think I feel sorry for Greg in this chapter.

Everything would be less traumatic if Brian and Justin would just tlak and listen to each other  poor boys)!Love the RV part!Looking forward to updates, thanks for sharing!


Author's Response:

You're very welcome :)

Yes, poor Greg.  He's, like, WTF?  How many clients slap down nearly a million dollars for a house they haven't even really seen?!

 

I really hope the end works for you . . . . . . . . .

Reviewer: bksbracelet (Signed) · Date: June 15, 2015 11:14 PM · On: "Wish Me Luck"

Yes yes he is! Buying a dam house without your partner hands down the most stupid of actions. Why oh why won't these two men just talk to each other! Because then we wouldn't have a story lol

Author's Response:

True, so true.  Brian and Justin's problems can pretty much be summed up by saying they have "communications issues."  (Understatement of the year!)

As for the house, I'm totally with you on that.  On the surface it seems romantic, but then when you look at Brian's actions close up, they seem more manipulative than romantic.

Reviewer: Anonymous (Anonymous) · Date: June 15, 2015 07:48 PM · On: "Let's Do It"

You have analyzed this so well.  I always was trying to figure out just what was going on in Justin's mind when he was brought to the mansion.  I am really liking this story.



Author's Response:

I'm so glad!  It's actually much harder work than I thought it would be.  There are so many things that don't make sense in the original, so I feel like I'm playing pin-the-tail on canon with a blindfold tied over my eyes :)

Reviewer: Blossomlegs (Signed) · Date: June 15, 2015 02:02 AM · On: "Let's Do It"

Brilliantly written fic with so much ANGST!

Is there hope for a happy ending?

Love your writing!

Thanks for sharing!

JoAnn



Author's Response:

Hi JoAnn,

 

Thank you so much for commenting :)  I'm glad you're enjoying it so far.  As for a happy ending . . . check out the story summary ;)

Reviewer: Anonymous (Anonymous) · Date: June 13, 2015 09:16 PM · On: "The Prisoner Respectfully Chooses Not to Partake of His Last Meal . . ."

This is so good.  You are analyzing each line.  I love the way we are getting to truly experience a version of exactly what was taking place during those pre non- wedding days.



Author's Response:

It has always driven me crazy that we don't get to see more of what was going on in their minds, especially Brian's.  One minute he's absolutely firm in his desire to get married; the next he's snarking at Justin for no real assertainable reason - I figured I'd ty to fill in some of the gaps.  I'm glad you're enjoying it :)

Reviewer: bksbracelet (Signed) · Date: June 13, 2015 12:32 AM · On: Mr. I-Believe-In-Fucking-Not-Love

Argh oh dam poor Brian opening your heart like that to be laughed at! But omg buying a mansion is equally stupid!

Author's Response:

Agreed!  Not to mention a tad manipulative :-/  But, yeah, that scene in which Justin turns down his proposal is so hard to watch!

Reviewer: Anonymous (Anonymous) · Date: June 13, 2015 12:14 AM · On: Mr. I-Believe-In-Fucking-Not-Love

Poor Brian.



Author's Response:

I know :(

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 12, 2015 04:00 AM · On: Assumptions

Talking about now would be good.  They might not be on the same page.



Author's Response:

LOL!  You think?  *smacks them and then locks them in a closet until they sort things out*

Reviewer: feet526@aol.com (Anonymous) · Date: June 12, 2015 02:54 AM · On: Assumptions

Be still my heart! Thanks for such a wonderful andfast update...hope you are able to continue...



Author's Response:

Absolutely!  I just posted the next chapter :)

Reviewer: Predec2 (Signed) · Date: June 12, 2015 02:21 AM · On: Assumptions

Fray - FYI - adjusted your formatting between paragraphs to make it easier for readers to read. ~Kim



Author's Response:

Thank you!  I didn't realize I was having a formatting issue.  I'll keep an eye open for that from now on :)

Reviewer: Severus_divides_into_H (Signed) · Date: June 11, 2015 10:23 AM · On: The Bomb

Oh wow. New story from you – and what a story it is. I *love* the idea, I always enjoy seeing different AU versions of 513. As always, your writing touched me deeply. I shivered – with just a couple of words you manage to express the variety of overwhelming emotions. I can sympathize with Brian, I understand his fear and his confusion. I don’t think that Justin would want to marry him if he knew Brian wants to keep tricking, but I also don’t think Justin will – should? – leave him just because of it. I feel that to Justin marriage means something new, 100% monogamy and probably sex with no condoms, but if Brian isn’t ready, he will never push him. Marriage is not that important, but maybe their relationship could survive if Brian were to be discreet, like he promised in his thoughts? I don’t know. I wonder what Justin thinks. I wonder what Brian is going to do.

The second chapter was even more intense! There is something wrong with the formatting, though, but I still managed to read it. Impressive. That despair, that bone deep fear… you are amazing at describing emotions.

I’m hooked, I’m looking forward to the next chapter! By the way, how long do you think this story is going to be?  



Author's Response:

Hey there!  Nice to see you :)

You'll see how my thoughts evolve over the course of this story, but I think Justin does want something more from Brian than what Brian was giving him, and that's why he left.  But I'm not sure that Justin *needed* monogamy.  I'm not even sure that Justin, himself, wants to be monogamous.  The more important thing to him was that Brian finally acknowledge that they're a couple and start acting like a *real* partner instead of just giving the title lip service.  It was the emotional commitment that Justin wanted (and which Brian was so afraid to give him); I think the whole tricking thing was/is background noise.  I don't think Justin will ever be crazy about it, but I don't think it's the deal-breaker that Brian thinks it is.  They need to talk . . . but then again, what else is new :-/

Kim, one of the administrators, was kind enough to fix the formatting.  Hopefully, things are easier to read now.  I'm glad you're hooked.  I'll try to keep it that way :)

Reviewer: feet526@aol.com (Anonymous) · Date: June 11, 2015 05:28 AM · On: "Maybe You'd Rather Just Cuddle"

Loved!
Frustrated, can't pull up second chapter...your end or ours?

Author's Response:

It was on my end - it should be all better now.  Thanks for the heads-up :)

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 11, 2015 03:33 AM · On: The Bomb

You really got into Brian's head with this one.  Like you always do.



Author's Response:

A HUGE compliment!  Thank you!

Reviewer: Carol (Anonymous) · Date: June 10, 2015 10:45 PM · On: "Maybe You'd Rather Just Cuddle"

When I read something you've written I'm always amazed at how well you verbalise what I feel I should have realised all along. You seem to have the answers for questions I didn't even know I was asking. Will I ever tire of the phenomenon that is 'Brian and Justin' .. largely thanks to fanfiction and authors like yourself, not any time soon :)



Author's Response:

Hi Carol!

I'm really pleased to know that this rings true to you so far.  This particular conversation between Brian and Justin has been driving me nuts for years, and it's taken me a long time to figure out *exactly* why (beside the obvious WTFness).  The thing that has always bothered me is Brian's downright meanness.  I could either consider it sloppy writing by the show's creators or I could treat it as intentional canon and try to figure out what might be going on behind the scenes.  We'll see if my explantion holds water . . . .

Reviewer: sweetc (Anonymous) · Date: June 10, 2015 05:38 PM · On: "Maybe You'd Rather Just Cuddle"

I like it!I like your brian thinking about that.We don't have that in the show and the sudden propose the sudden marry me is not really real not for brian.I think he would come around ( monogamy and wedding) eventually but not just like that....yes he was afraid of losing justin but justin might be content we just one stay...i'm going to miss you a lot.He do no need that right now.BUT i also think that if you marry someone or if you think he is the one you are goint to stop to have sex with other.Yes it is a sacrifice but justin don't really believe with sex with others too.I hope you will not support an opne marriage but i love all the thinking about and coming around in the future.



Author's Response:

Oh boy!  Pressure!  I can't promise that Brian will stop tricking, but I can promise that it will no longer be "a lifestyle."  If you stick with me, you'll see what I mean.  As for an open marriage - I'm not an expert by any means, but I've always gotten the impression that an open marriage envisions some degree of personal intimacy between the non-spousal partners.  If that's true, then Brian and Justin will definitely *not* have an open marriage.  But if it just means occasional sex outside of marriage . . . . well, like I said, stick with me.

All of this said, I think that were Brian to decide to be monogamous for Justin (and if that's what Justin wanted), he would and could do it.  Maybe he'd have to go through a period of mourning and resentment, but he could do it.  Justin means more to him than tricking.  Which - considering who Brian is and always has been - is a REALLY big deal and says a lot about his love for Justin.

Reviewer: ForeverLove50 (Signed) · Date: June 10, 2015 01:41 PM · On: "Maybe You'd Rather Just Cuddle"

Wow Brian!
Very interesting start, I am curious to see how he is going to handle this. Happily waiting for new update, I hope Justin stands his ground on this.

Author's Response:

Ah, a diehard romantic :)  I'll make a deal with you - if Justin doesn't insist on monogamy, I promise I'll explain why.

Reviewer: YumYumPM (Signed) · Date: June 09, 2015 08:34 PM · On: "Maybe You'd Rather Just Cuddle"

Poor Brian.  He's already had a conversation with Justin without actually talking to Justin.  What if he's wrong?  Hopefully something will change? 



Author's Response:

What if he's wrong, indeed . . . . .

Good point about him already having had a "conversation" with Justin.  Poor Justin didn't even have a voice in it!

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